You know what I really respect? When people like to dish it out about other fangirls, but get flouncy on you at the first sign of disagreement. So classy!2.
You know what I would genuinely
respect? If people -- random people, not people under 1.
-- just came out and said 'I'm upset that Jin got married because he's less sexy to me with a wife/as a dad/ruined my tinhatting/ruined my daydreams of one day hitting it off with him in LEX.' I would respect that, because it's honest
. I've been reading a lot on various comms and forums and shit that got linked and comments and whatnot ever since Jin's punishment brought the Jinpocalypse to boiling point again, and, you know? 'Oh, no, I have no problem with the marriage, but how dare he go behind Johnny's back?
', 'I am happy for Jin for getting married but I hate him because he didn't tell his fans first
', 'Jin can marry whomever he likes but now he really fucked it up for the senpai and he needs to be punished!!
', 'The marriage is fine with me but he violated his contract he really has it all coming.
', 'I was fine with the marriage but TWSS really made me hate him
', 'I don't begrudge him the marriage but I read so many con reports that say he didn't have a good show and that is SO EVIL
' -- this stuff is all over the place.
And I am not. buying. it. I actually think a lot of those reasons why I'm really really upset and not because I'm upset about the marriage
are legitimate complaints; I am unhappy about some of them myself, and I fully understand
if people just... burn out on Jin. Trufax, I was at a point myself where I wasn't sure if I still wanted to care about him.
But the people who are going around in a rage hating on Jin all over the place... I just don't buy that the small potatoes are really the cause of all that vitriol, and long-term fans turning into haters.
And yes, you may judge me now for ascribing motivations to people on the internetz. But that's what it looks like to me from here.
(And, you know what? I think being upset that Jin got married is okay
. It doesn't mean you'll instantly look like you're going to hunt Meisa down and poison her drink. 4rlz.)3.
And a word on the contract thing. I am not saying that Jin has won himself many laurels of professional conduct lately; I sincerely wish he'd done it differently, and I'm not wringing my hands about the punishment -- I don't like it but I assume he knew this would come with a price tag. But if 'getting married' and 'keeping a baby' (people! she got pregnant! there is an actually existing pregnancy! are we really debating whether she owed her employer
?) is the same kind of 'breach of contract' as 'he didn't show up for a concert' or 'he keeps missing meetings' for you, then you and I don't live in the same moral universe.3b.
I do wish the flailing, fretting, worrying fangirls would tone it down a bit on the hyperbole. But the 'human rights' argument, as much as the tone of it all makes me cringe, is not actually as stupid as it sounds, in my opinion. What sort of work contracts are ethical and what you can legitimately ask someone to sign away ('Can an institution fire a divorcee who chooses to remarry?') is exactly
stuff that gets decided before high courts on the grounds of human rights and personal liberties. Not in Japan, I suppose. But, I'm just saying. Cringe
on execution, point on instinct.4.
I also genuinely wish we had some better information. Even on very, very
basic questions ('Is Warner currently running a loss on Jin or is he earning his keep?' - 'Were these venues Jin has to pay for ever really booked?') that would help get a better grip on the bigger questions we have no idea, and everyone who seems
to know -- and I count 'make an educated, logical guess because they have some background with this shit' as knowing in a crunch -- is speaking from a place of bias. It's making me a bit crazy.5.
This is a public post. I will not flounce on you if you disagree with me. (Though if you don't like Kame's fat arms, we may have a problem.)Dreamwidth Edit for jae
, who doesn't like it when people post inaccessible cryptic stuff! After Jin got married without informing his agency (they learned it from the press the same way we did), they still let him have his America tour in March, but now that that's over it's been announced that an upcoming Japan tour he was supposed to hold in April and May was cancelled as punishment, and he has to pay the cancellation fees for the venues (tickets had not gone on sale yet). Jin's been getting a lot of hate ever since the marriage news; a few small scale things happened afterwards that haven't helped him with his critics, but then it's probably fair to say that nothing much would have helped him with those. The announcement of the punishment has led to ~very strong feelings~ and occasionally dodgy grammar from people who still like him and people who hate him now, and I got my ass defriended this morning for questioning someone's idea of 'it's essentially a breach of contract'. *g*